I think the gentleman is right. We have to figure that if in fact the FascellMoakley amendment passes and we unilaterally disarm in Central America. making it impossible to stop communism. because human beings love freedom. we can expectand I should explain to the gentleman from Pennsylvania how I arrive at these figures. so anyone listening will understand these are not just made up. The number of refugees from communism in Afghanistan is about 16 percent of the population of Afghanistan. They do not have places as nice as Los Angeles. El Paso. San Antonio. and Phoenix to go to. they are going into refugee camps in Pakistan. Even so. in order to get away from communism. 16 percent of the population of Afghanistan has fled. The figures for Cuba were around 10 percent. but in Cuba you have to get on a boat and cross 90 miles of water. The thing people do not realize about Central America is that it is only 2 days ride by car from El Salvador to the Texas border. that in fact El Salvador is closer to Miami than Miami is to Washington. DC. So my guess. basically all we did was take the Afghanistan numbers. about 16 percent. though I think it would be higher because the United States is a more desirable place to flee to than is Pakistan. my guess is if you take those figures and apply them to the current populations of Central America and Mexico and you understand we have clearly. we have the statement of the Nicaraguans and the statements of the guerrillas in El Salvador. that they are fighting for all of Central America. this is not a national war. that is war for control of the region. then I think you have to count on the same percentage of refugees coming to the United States as a minimum. our base line figure and the base line figure I arrive at is something on the order of 13 million. 12.8 million people. I yield to the gentleman.
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