It leads to a psychological climate under which coming to an agreement so necessary for all the parties is becoming more and more difficult. I want to give a simple example. How can Ambassador Max Kampelman and Senator Nunn treat various Soviet proposals with confidence if they know all about our case and many other cases of this kind? Speaking again of refusnicks. Id like to say that its impossible to believe that any person who rally has knowledge of any state secret would have applied for a visa and thus would have most certainly made his life the life of a lifelong refusnick. The real secret is just that one who and how decides our destinies? For more than ten years.