Laos. and Cambodia. One of the bitter ironies of this whole debate is that the administration is prepared to plan and to set a time definite for the halting of humanitarian aid and medical supplies to the civilian population of South Vietnam. but is refusing to set a time definite for the withdrawal of American troops and military aid. They have set the time for the end of humanitarian dollars. and it is next year. that is when we will have the end of direct refugee support and assistance for the people of the South. But we see an absolute refusal to set a time limitation on the implementation of the war or military dollars. But to get back for a moment to the impact of the war on the North Vietnamese. on the civilian populationthe women. children. and innocents in North Vietnamwe found that the State Department and the Defense Department could give us with precision the number of bridges knocked out. the number of trucks on the Ho Chi Minih trails knocked out. the POLs knocked out. how many strikes were made on particular bridges. where napalm was dropped. or where antipersonnel bombs were dropped.